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Baachu Story: A Matter of Record: The APMP Professional Ethics Committee Hearing, 21 November 2022

May 07, 2026 S07 E37 00:41:43

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In February 2023, APMP made public statements regarding the revocation of Baachu's ATO status. That statement has since been removed from their website. 

In June 2023, we formally requested the evidence used to justify those claims. That request remains unanswered.

Today, after 3 years, we release the unedited audio record of the Professional Ethics Committee hearing.

Why did we record this?

Because no independent record existed. APMP controlled the process. We made sure we had our own.

Timeline 

June 2022: Baachu receives a legal letter outlining allegations of unethical marketing and competition with APMP. No prior dialogue or warning was given. 

November 2022: This hearing takes place. Three allegations are addressed in full. 

December 2022: APMP notifies Baachu of the unanimous decision to uphold the revocation. Baachu instructs a Legal 500 solicitor and formally requests the disclosure of evidence supporting the allegations. 

 In February 2023, APMP issued a public statement, now removed from its website, introducing copyright infringement as an additional basis for revocation. Copyright had not been raised in the June 2022 legal correspondence or at the November 2022 hearing. The accompanying cease and desist letters addressed the use of APMP’s name, logos, and the ATO designation on Baachu’s website and course pages. These are matters of trademark and branding and are unrelated to the allegations considered at the hearing. 

June 2023: Baachu's solicitor issues a formal legal letter to APMP requesting evidence for all allegations. The legal claim remains unanswered. 

For the listener 

This recording is complete and unedited. No audio has been altered, removed or re-sequenced. 

Three allegations were addressed during this hearing. No questions regarding copyright infringement were raised at any point during the proceedings. 

APMP put out a call for member volunteers to sit on the ethics panel. Members applied. None were used. APMP's own board minutes from October 2022 record the decision: "It was determined that the proper iteration of the PEC to hear this appeal (since it is a contractual appeal) is the PEC Chair sitting with the APMP Officers." The APMP Officers were the same executive committee that had discussed the revocation since January 2022. The only panel member who had not been part of those discussions was the PEC Chair, described in the minutes as the one who "wasn't part of the original meeting." Baachu learned the panel composition on the day of the hearing.

As of the date of publication 7 May 2026, no evidence has been provided to Baachu in response to the formal legal request made in June 2023. 

This recording is published in the interest of transparency and as a matter of public record, in direct response to APMP's public statement of 12 February 2023. Again, that Baachu statement has since been removed from APMP's website. 

Documentation 

Timeline of events

Baachu's response to APMP's February 2023 statement

Transcript of Baskar Sundaram's response at the hearing

Full account published November 2025

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